Re: [Hipsec] Orchid generation algorithm - where should it be specified?
"Henderson, Thomas R" <thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com> Tue, 02 March 2010 16:44 UTC
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From: "Henderson, Thomas R" <thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com>
To: "'Laganier, Julien'" <julienl@qualcomm.com>, Tobias Heer <heer@cs.rwth-aachen.de>
Date: Tue, 02 Mar 2010 08:44:13 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Orchid generation algorithm - where should it be specified?
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> -----Original Message----- > From: Laganier, Julien [mailto:julienl@qualcomm.com] > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 8:20 AM > To: Tobias Heer; Henderson, Thomas R > Cc: hipsec@ietf.org WG > Subject: RE: Orchid generation algorithm - where should it be > specified? > > Hello Tobias, > > Tobias Heer wrote: > > > > Hello Julien and Tom, > > > > the algorithm for generating the hash part of the HITs in the new > > ORCHID format and its index should be specified somewhere. > The question > > is where. > > > > Since not all protocols that use ORCHIDS are required to > use the same > > bits/algorithms, it might make sense to specify the actual ID and > > algorithm in the context of the protocol that uses the ORCHID. > > I agree. > > > In our case, we could start with a simple allocation for: > > > > ID 0 - SHA2-256 truncated to 96 bits > > > > This could be defined in any HIP document. I think RFC5201-bis would > > make sense, wouldn't it? > > We can later extend it to use some hash chain extension > mechanism (e.g., > > as ID 1) but I think a simple mechanism is a good start. > > > > Any opinions on this? > > I agree that 5201bis is the logical place to do that. > +1 Tom
- [Hipsec] Orchid generation algorithm - where shou… Tobias Heer
- Re: [Hipsec] Orchid generation algorithm - where … Laganier, Julien
- Re: [Hipsec] Orchid generation algorithm - where … Henderson, Thomas R