Re: [Hipsec] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sun, 06 May 2018 19:01 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Sun, 06 May 2018 12:01:01 -0700
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To: Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Sun, May 6, 2018 at 10:19 AM, Christer Holmberg <
christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > I am very familiar with ICE and yet I found this document extremely hard
> to follow. The problem is that it cherry-picks pieces
> > of ICE and I'm just not sure that it's a complete specification when put
> all together. I have noted a number of places where I
> > actually am not sure how to implement something, and fixing those will
> resolve this DISCUSS, but IMO you really should totally
> > rewrite this document either (a) as a variant of ICE or (b) as an
> entirely new document not with a pile of new text and then
> > references out to ICE sections.
>
> I haven't been involved in the work on this draft, so I may be wrong, but
> I did review the document and my understanding is that RFC 5770 is the
> "variant of ICE", and this document is a modification/extension to RFC 5770.
>

This document is a variant of ICE in the sense that it is ICE-like and
explicitly depends on quite a bit of ICE.

-Ekr


> Regards,
>
> Christer
>
>
>