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[Hipsec] Re-doing the IESG ballot for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal

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From: "Eric Vyncke (evyncke)" <evyncke@cisco.com>
To: "iesg@ietf.org" <iesg@ietf.org>, "hipsec@ietf.org" <hipsec@ietf.org>
CC: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@gmail.com>, Terry Manderson <terry.manderson@icann.org>
Thread-Topic: Re-doing the IESG ballot for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal
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Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2020 12:35:04 +0000
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Subject: [Hipsec] Re-doing the IESG ballot for draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal
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Hi,

The first IESG ballot for the draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal was done in May 2018 and was blocked by a couple of DISCUSS by the 2018 IESG. The main issue IMHO was around “why not reusing plain ICE?”; the authors in discussion with Adam Roach have provided an applicability statement and a justification on why “plain ICE” does not work efficiently when combined with HIP + additional text or replies for the remaining DISCUSS & COMMENT.

The diff are https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-30&url1=draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-28

I have reviewed all COMMENT and DISCUSS from 2 years ago and it appears to me that they are all addressed (including those from 2018 AD who are no more AD in 2020 – they are in cc). The changes in the document are minor and I am confident that neither a WG Last Call not an IETF Last Call is required. I am therefore placing the document in the next IESG telechat and opening a new IESG ballot.

Thank you for the authors on their energy to keep the document useful,

Regards,

-éric

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