Re: [Hipsec] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's Statement of IPR Related todraft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-05
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Fri, 13 September 2013 15:48 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's Statement of IPR Related todraft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-05
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On 07/16/2013 05:51 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote: > Hi Bob, > > following up on this old IPR disclosure, even though the spec now > mandates a co-factor of 1, I have not seen any updated to the IPR > disclosure. Do you know anything else about this? What about the other > two patents referenced in the disclosure? I believe that 5201-bis is technically correct and independent of the disclosed IPR. > > Thanks, > > Gonzalo > > On 11/05/2011 11:49 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >> In some conversations here at IEEE 802 wireless interim, we have 'worked >> out' that the first patent deals with EC co-factors greater than 1. >> Although all of the curves we currently specify have a co-factor of 1, >> we do not state anything about the co-factor in the standard. >> >> We only need to explicitly limit 5201-bis (and HIP-DEX) to curves with a >> co-factor of 1 and avoid the first patent. >> >> Once we work out text on the co-factor, I guess I will send it to my old >> IPsec buddy, Tony Rosati, and see if it addresses their position (I >> understand other standards limit the co-factor to a value of 1). >> >> We are still trying to figure out the others. I hope I can get help on >> working through them. >> >> On 04/28/2011 02:16 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>> I just received the following: >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: IETF Secretariat [mailto:ietf-ipr@ietf.org] >>> Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 4:50 PM >>> To: robert.moskowitz@icsalabs.com; heer@cs.rwth-aachen.de; >>> petri.jokela@nomadiclab.com; thomas.r.henderson@boeing.com >>> Cc: rdroms.ietf@gmail.com; jari.arkko@piuha.net; >>> "hipsec@ietf.orgdward"@juniper.net; gonzalo.camarillo@ericsson.com; >>> ipr-announce@ietf.org; housley@vigilsec.com >>> Subject: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's Statement of IPR Related >>> todraft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-05 >>> >>> >>> Dear Robert Moskowitz, Tobias Heer, Petri Jokela, Tom Henderson: >>> >>> An IPR disclosure that pertains to your Internet-Draft entitled "Host >>> Identity >>> Protocol Version 2 (HIPv2)" (draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis) was submitted >>> to the >>> IETF Secretariat on 2011-04-17 and has been posted on the "IETF Page of >>> Intellectual Property Rights Disclosures" >>> (https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/1541/). The title of the IPR >>> disclosure is >>> "Certicom Corp's Statement of IPR Related to >>> draft-ietf-hip-rfc5201-bis-05.""); >>> >>> The IETF Secretariat >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Hipsec mailing list >>> Hipsec@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Hipsec mailing list >> Hipsec@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec >> >
- [Hipsec] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's Sta… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Hipsec] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [Hipsec] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's… Gonzalo Camarillo
- Re: [Hipsec] Fwd: IPR Disclosure: Certicom Corp's… Robert Moskowitz