Re: [Hipsec] Need to clarify HIT prefix

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Fri, 15 April 2011 13:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Need to clarify HIT prefix
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On 04/15/2011 08:42 AM, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> On 04/15/2011 06:39 AM, Julien Laganier wrote:
>> and FWIW 2001:10::/28 and 2001:0000::/32 are disjoint.
>
> Well yes, for 4843 and 4380.
>
> And do current HIP implementations use 2001:10::/28?
>
> But 4843-bis has 2001:0000::/23

I see now that I mis-read 4843-bis.  I read the IANA considerations and 
I suppose due to being over tired at IETF  :)  , I got it wrong.  Julien 
has it right (after all he wrote it!).

 From this though, we need to clean up the IANA considerations to what 
we want IANA to do as part of moving the draft to rfc.   I might think.


>
> Perhaps that is a typo or a placeholder?
>
> So in part what Gonzalo is saying is do we stay with what we have 
> right now during the ID phase, or do we ask IANA for a proper 
> assignment during development?
>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 3:36 AM, Julien 
>> Laganier<julien.ietf@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/iana-ipv6-special-registry/iana-ipv6-special-registry.xml 
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Robert 
>>> Moskowitz<rgm@htt-consult.com>  wrote:
>>>> WHAT is the prefix used in HIPv1 (RFC 5201)?
>>>>
>>>> RFC 4843 states:
>>>>
>>>>    Prefix          : A constant 28-bit-long bitstring value
>>>>                      (2001:10::/28).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But 4843-bis states:
>>>>
>>>>    IANA allocated a temporary non-routable 28-bit prefix from the IPv6
>>>>    address space.  By default, the prefix will be returned to IANA in
>>>>    2014, continued use requiring IETF consensus.  As per [RFC4773], 
>>>> the
>>>>    28-bit prefix was drawn out of the IANA Special Purpose Address
>>>>    Block, namely 2001:0000::/23, in support of the experimental usage
>>>>    described in this document.  IANA has updated the IPv6 Special
>>>>    Purpose Address Registry.
>>>>
>>>> There is NOTHING in the IANA registry about any assignment.  But as 
>>>> I plowed
>>>> through the iana assignment information, I found:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments/ipv6-unicast-address-assignments.xml 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [9]    3FFE:831F::/32 was used for Teredo in some old but widely
>>>>         distributed networking stacks. This usage is deprecated in 
>>>> favour of
>>>> 2001::/32,
>>>>         which was allocated for the purpose in [RFC4380]
>>>>
>>>> And sure enough in 4380:
>>>>
>>>> 2.6. Global Teredo IPv6 Service Prefix
>>>>
>>>>    An IPv6 addressing prefix whose value is 2001:0000:/32.
>>>>
>>>>  From this I MIGHT infer that Teredo is stepping within HIP's ORCHID
>>>> allocation!
>>>>
>>>> Obviously this needs some clarification (at least for me!)
>>>>
>>>> AND
>>>>
>>>> IANA needs to put in the registry what HIPv1 is using, and then 
>>>> make sure
>>>> that the HIPv2 prefix is publicized.
>>>>
>>>>
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