Re: [Hipsec] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-30: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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From: Miika Komu <miika.komu@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-30: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Magnus,

pe, 2020-04-03 kello 09:17 +0000, Magnus Westerlund kirjoitti:
> > 
> > > 2. Secondly, as this solution is different from the RFC 5770
> should
> > > this
> > > solution have a different service name? The reason I am asking is
> > > that it
> > > depends on how for example how an initiator determine which of
> the
> > > NAT
> > > traversal solution. If there is any intention to use DNS SRV for
> > > example
> > > different service name would make sense. This is primarily to
> verify
> > > that this
> > > has been considered.
> > 
> > I am not an expert on the topic but based on some discussions with
> some
> > colleagues, the SRV records seem to more suitable for
> infrastructure
> > discovery, not really for end-host discovery. Since you asked for
> this,
> > I wrote a new section in the appendix:
> 
> So the main reason for my question was to ensure that you have not
> forgoetten
> that you actually have some dependnecy on the service name that would
> in fact be
> incompatible. That could include some supporting document, for
> example usage of
> SRV records. However, with the below text written, I do find it
> informative. And
> the statement at the end that you don't use SRV records currently is
> also good
> and part to answer one aspect of my question. To conclude, it appears
> to be no
> issues with having the two mechanisms share service name and port. 
> 
> From my perspective it appears to be some benefit in including the
> below
> appendix in the specificaiton, but you should seek consensus on it in
> the WG
> before the document is approved in my opinion.

I noticed that the new proposed text on DNS is handling things
differently than this part in RFC5770:

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5770#appendix-B

So I would suggest that we would update RFC5770 appendix B in the
native NAT traversal draft and replace it with the new DNS text.

(I can ask WG consensus for this also)