Re: [Hipsec] Eric Rescorla's Discuss on draft-ietf-hip-native-nat-traversal-28: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

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> I am very familiar with ICE and yet I found this document extremely hard to follow. The problem is that it cherry-picks pieces 
> of ICE and I'm just not sure that it's a complete specification when put all together. I have noted a number of places where I 
> actually am not sure how to implement something, and fixing those will resolve this DISCUSS, but IMO you really should totally 
> rewrite this document either (a) as a variant of ICE or (b) as an entirely new document not with a pile of new text and then 
> references out to ICE sections.

I haven't been involved in the work on this draft, so I may be wrong, but I did review the document and my understanding is that RFC 5770 is the "variant of ICE", and this document is a modification/extension to RFC 5770.