Re: [Hipsec] New WG item: HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)

Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com> Mon, 15 February 2016 21:26 UTC

Return-Path: <rgm@htt-consult.com>
X-Original-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4751ACE02 for <hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:56 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.507
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.507 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_50=0.8, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.006, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id LpiQ0xTpqG3V for <hipsec@ietfa.amsl.com>; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:54 -0800 (PST)
Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [50.253.254.3]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 84F631ACD83 for <hipsec@ietf.org>; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 13:26:54 -0800 (PST)
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4662262205; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:26:53 -0500 (EST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at htt-consult.com
Received: from z9m9z.htt-consult.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (z9m9z.htt-consult.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id mwHTWrIMmZkV; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:26:48 -0500 (EST)
Received: from lx120e.htt-consult.com (unknown [192.168.160.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by z9m9z.htt-consult.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4BCF462201; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:26:48 -0500 (EST)
To: Gonzalo Camarillo <Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com>, HIP <hipsec@ietf.org>
References: <56C1B871.6090000@ericsson.com>
From: Robert Moskowitz <rgm@htt-consult.com>
Message-ID: <56C24296.5020307@htt-consult.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 16:26:46 -0500
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.5.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <56C1B871.6090000@ericsson.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Archived-At: <http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/hipsec/wnpIYUE4JKD-GSoZOxA0C05b9GA>
Subject: Re: [Hipsec] New WG item: HIP Diet EXchange (DEX)
X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." <hipsec.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/hipsec>, <mailto:hipsec-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/hipsec/>
List-Post: <mailto:hipsec@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:hipsec-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec>, <mailto:hipsec-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 21:26:57 -0000

I will add that the only work item I have is adding Curve25519 as this 
is now available.  I have worked with one vendor of an 8bit sensor with 
30K memory.  The ECDH with Curve25519 takes ~9sec.  They accept that 
cost as part of the join operation.  It gives us a lower limit on the 
use of HIP DEX that HIP BEX cannot reach.

But please review the draft.  Rene worked hard at aligning it with 7401.

On 02/15/2016 06:37 AM, Gonzalo Camarillo wrote:
> Folks,
>
> I have talked with our AD and he is OK with adding the following
> milestone to our charter:
>
> o Develop a standards track specification of a light-weight HIP exchange
>
> The plan would be to take the following draft as the WG item associated
> with the milestone:
>
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-moskowitz-hip-dex/
>
> Please, let us know if you have comments (positive or negative) on this.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Gonzalo
>
> _______________________________________________
> Hipsec mailing list
> Hipsec@ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hipsec
>