Return-Path: X-Original-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Delivered-To: hipsec@core3.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D13428C0E2 for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:42:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -106.465 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-106.465 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.134, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([64.170.98.32]) by localhost (core3.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id TzH+hoHOhYgx for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wolverine01.qualcomm.com (wolverine01.qualcomm.com [199.106.114.254]) by core3.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17A5C28C30E for ; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:15:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=qualcomm.com; i=julienl@qualcomm.com; q=dns/txt; s=qcdkim; t=1271866517; x=1303402517; h=from:to:date:subject:thread-topic:thread-index: message-id:references:in-reply-to:accept-language: content-language:x-ms-has-attach:x-ms-tnef-correlator: acceptlanguage:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: mime-version; z=From:=20"Laganier,=20Julien"=20 |To:=20Robert=20Moskowitz=20,=20"hip sec@ietf.org"=0D=0A=09|Date:=20Wed,=2021 =20Apr=202010=2009:14:33=20-0700|Subject:=20RE:=20[Hipsec ]=20Sending=20data=20on=20HIP=20packets|Thread-Topic:=20[ Hipsec]=20Sending=20data=20on=20HIP=20packets |Thread-Index:=20AcrhaQb+ObERF0fNRhaVEcra1uzZ+AABEOGA |Message-ID:=20|References:=20<4BCF16EC.60 80806@htt-consult.com>|In-Reply-To:=20<4BCF16EC.6080806@h tt-consult.com>|Accept-Language:=20en-US |Content-Language:=20en-US|X-MS-Has-Attach: |X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:|acceptlanguage:=20en-US |Content-Type:=20text/plain=3B=20charset=3D"us-ascii" |Content-Transfer-Encoding:=20quoted-printable |MIME-Version:=201.0; bh=CTEj9y/HUF2jIT+EIJgHe4C6C2YceNN0XfLIEr+DS/k=; b=R1lIt1QrOdB3sX/2t0041ATBvjL6W3Ru3DPsnjX4Jk2SJie+Pc5/dMHb 3iAxuMM9tTh695y1gvQTRhIZuMZlPsYXo2+RlQFljeS1EpxZNCap5s7va PGB3bVkIJkIp8/HkQZSAuYawWg2TQRRJnIpnMoIQRiIpMpn3ktoSw+sya Q=; X-IronPort-AV: E=McAfee;i="5400,1158,5958"; a="39363328" Received: from ironmsg01-l.qualcomm.com ([172.30.48.15]) by wolverine01.qualcomm.com with ESMTP; 21 Apr 2010 09:15:07 -0700 X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.52,247,1270450800"; d="scan'208";a="13514338" Received: from nasanexhub06.na.qualcomm.com ([129.46.134.254]) by ironmsg01-l.qualcomm.com with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 21 Apr 2010 09:14:36 -0700 Received: from nalasexhub04.na.qualcomm.com (10.47.130.55) by nasanexhub06.na.qualcomm.com (129.46.134.254) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 8.2.234.1; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:14:36 -0700 Received: from NALASEXMB04.na.qualcomm.com ([10.47.7.118]) by nalasexhub04.na.qualcomm.com ([10.47.130.55]) with mapi; Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:14:35 -0700 From: "Laganier, Julien" To: Robert Moskowitz , "hipsec@ietf.org" Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:14:33 -0700 Thread-Topic: [Hipsec] Sending data on HIP packets Thread-Index: AcrhaQb+ObERF0fNRhaVEcra1uzZ+AABEOGA Message-ID: References: <4BCF16EC.6080806@htt-consult.com> In-Reply-To: <4BCF16EC.6080806@htt-consult.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: [Hipsec] Sending data on HIP packets X-BeenThere: hipsec@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: "This is the official IETF Mailing List for the HIP Working Group." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 16:42:29 -0000 Robert Moskowitz wrote: >=20 > Is there any experience in sending data along with I2 and R2? I don't. =20 > Is this easy to do or very hard even with HIP aware apps? Hmmm. Isn't this going to create problem with PMTUD because the PMTU on the= data sent over I2 and R2 will be lower than can be expected after the HIP = handshake concludes? On the other hand if the first sent is TCP SYN on I2 a= nd TCP SYN ACK on R2 then there's no problem with PMTUD... --julien