Re: [HOKEY] WGLC on draft-ietf-hokey-arch-design

Qin Wu <bill.wu@huawei.com> Mon, 05 September 2011 05:37 UTC

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Subject: Re: [HOKEY] WGLC on draft-ietf-hokey-arch-design
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HI,:
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com>
To: "Glen Zorn" <glenzorn@gmail.com>
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Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: Re: [HOKEY] WGLC on draft-ietf-hokey-arch-design


> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Glen Zorn" <glenzorn@gmail.com>
> To: "Qin Wu" <bill.wu@huawei.com>
> Cc: "Zhen Cao" <zehn.cao@gmail.com>om>; <hokey@ietf.org>
> Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [HOKEY] WGLC on draft-ietf-hokey-arch-design
> 
> 
>> On 9/2/2011 8:59 AM, Qin Wu wrote:
>> 
>>>> On 8/10/2011 10:38 AM, Zhen Cao wrote:
>>>>> I have read the latest (draft-ietf-hokey-arch-design) version of this
>>>>> draft and think it is ready for publication. However I have some
>>>>> additional comments to this draft below:
>>>>> Section 1, It said
>>>>> "
>>>>> whereas in AAK the client interacts with the AAA to discover and
>>>>> connect to CAPs.
>>>>> "
>>>>> [Z]: How to understand "discover"? It seems for AAK, there are
>>>>> potentially two possible cases.
>>>>> case 1: the client has already discovered a list of CAPs and negotiate
>>>>> with the AAA to choose one appropriate CAP from the CAPs list.
>>>>> case 2: the client only knows a layer-2 identifier as index and then
>>>>> the client use index to lookup appropirate CAP by interacting with the
>>>>> AAA. which case is correct?
>>> 
>>> [Qin]: My understanding is ,in AAK, SAP is capable of discovering CAPs 
>>> and is not necessary to rely on client based CAP discovery.
>> 
>> Actually, I think that CAP discovery is completely out of the scope of
>> hokey; what might be in scope would be the nature of the data that is
>> obtained as a result of discovery (name, address, etc.) but that may not
>> belong in this document.
> 
> [Qin]:Yes, as decribed in RFC5836, CAP discovery is defined as a separate protocol from authentication protocol.
> IEEE 802.21 can be candidate protocol to do CAP discovery. Also there are some other ways. So I agree
> CAP discovery should be left beyond scope of HOkey. 
> As for data obtained from discovery, Do you think NAS-Identifier used for carrying CAP identity is irrelevant?

[Qin]: You are right. Both how to use the results of discovery and how to perform discovery are not the focus of 
 Hokey architecute document. But how to use the results of discovery should be dealt with in the ERP-AAK document.

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