Re: [HOKEY] [IPsec] New Version Notification for draft-nir-ipsecme-erx-03.txt

Glen Zorn <> Wed, 09 May 2012 04:21 UTC

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On 05/03/2012 02:32 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
> Hi again.
> The response has so far been underwhelming. As I said in my previous message, I'm perfectly willing to go the individual route, but I think this would be a shame. The protocol extension described can have applications in both remote access VPN (opening multiple tunnels with multiple gateways) and in seamless roaming between remote access VPN and local area wireless networks.
> I also think that it touches a lot of different areas, and would benefit from the input of people better versed than me in the needs of cellular providers and AAA.
> I am CC-ing the HOKEY mailing list (as I should have done earlier) because this draft actually adapts IKE to work with their protocol, and they may be willing to review and contribute, even if this is IPsecME work.

Speaking as Co-Chair of hokey: if there is a God in heaven, the hokey WG 
will shortly cease to exist; therefore, I would strongly recommend that 
anyone who is not a member of ipsecme but wants to work on that draft 
join the ipsecme WG <>.
> So if any of you are interested, and are willing to review, please let us know.

I can work on this.

> Yoav&  Qin
> On Apr 12, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>> On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Yoav Nir wrote:
>>> We would like this working group to accept this, and have it added to charter. Of course, if it gets accepted, we volunteer to be authors. If it is not accepted, we will try to progress it as an individual submission, but we believe that this changes IKE enough that it should come from the working group.
>> Statements of interest and disinterest on this document are welcome. If you prefer to make such a statement off-list please send it to me or Yaron.
>> A statement of interest that include a promise to review in WG LC count for more than a bare statement of interest.
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