Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Thu, 30 June 2011 05:12 UTC
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 07:12:18 +0200
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
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Subject: Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal
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On Wed, 29 Jun 2011, Fernando Gont wrote: > My high level comment/question is: the proposed charter seems to stress > that IPv6 is the driver behind this potential wg effort... however, I > think that this deserves more discussion -- it's not clear to me why/how > typical IPv6 home networks would be much different from their IPv4 > counterparts. In my mind, I see the possibility of /56 PD enabling different subnets for different kinds of devices with different security and functional needs, and also chaining of L3 devices. This definitely warrants a group to look at that. A more routed home instead of pure L2 one. > One would hope/expect that the former will be gone with IPv6. However, I > don't think the latter will. As a result, even when you could "address" > nodes that belong to the "home network", you probably won't be able to > get your packets to them, unless those nodes initiated the communication > instance. This is exactly why the whole "system" needs to work, including uPNP like functionality for nodes to talk to the firewall(s). > I personally consider this property of "end-to-end connectivity" as > "gone". -- among other reasons, because it would require a change of > mindset. I'm more of the idea that people will replicate the > architecture of their IPv4 networks with IPv6, in which end-systems are > not reachable from the public Internet. I think this will also change, but not for all devices from all of the Internet. Still, I believe there is a place for a working group to look at this. I have subscribed already. -- Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
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- [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Jari Arkko
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Fernando Gont
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Cameron Byrne
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Fernando Gont
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Keith Moore
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Dan White
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Fernando Gont
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Fernando Gont
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal erik.taraldsen
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Stephen [kiwin] PALM
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Fernando Gont
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Keith Moore
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Keith Moore
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… james woodyatt
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Martin Focazio
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Keith Moore
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Robert Raszuk
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… JP Vasseur (jvasseur)
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Keith Moore
- Re: [homegate] [fun] HOMENET working group propos… james woodyatt
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Roger Jørgensen
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal ken carlberg
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Fred Baker
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal ken carlberg
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Mark Townsley
- Re: [homegate] HOMENET working group proposal Randy Turner