Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF network, please ?
Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org> Tue, 03 November 2015 21:16 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF network, please ?
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In message <CAL0WyWyTiuMP2gXKaM+oLyY2MzHU4Bw-NpaBZSfLLJntQFeWXA@mail.gmail.com>, Gabriel Kerneis writes: > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 10:45 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> > wrote: > > > Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote: > > > However, a number of ISPs (including the IETF, it seems) do not allow > > > prefix delegation. > > > > No, that's not correct. > > > The "including the IETF" aside might not be correct, but the sentence as a > whole is correct. > > > > > Do we ignore the problem > > > > It's not a problem. > > > > Having dealt with several (French and British) ISPs providing modems with > crappy firmwares, let me assure you that this is a very real problem. > > Gabriel Different problems. Getting the IETF's DHCPv6 servers and routers configured to serve and support PD requests is a very different problem to getting CPE devices to properly support PD. Getting DHCPv6 servers to respond to PD requests is easy. Integrating that with the routers is harder. This is having the IETF simulate being a ISP with wired home customers (assuming a wired connection) compared to being a hotspot provider which it currently is. If we want to do it over wireless as well then the IETF needs to simulate being a WISP. Now doing a demo network w/o integrating the DHCPv6 servers and the routers is also possible but requires a different planning. Providing CTMS and similar is yet again a different problem. We have the vendors in the IETF that can supply all the gear with suitable planning. They have brought this sort of gear for Bit-and-Bites in the past. So what is the scope of the request and what needs to be simulated? Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@isc.org
- [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF network,… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Gabriel Kerneis
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Mark Andrews
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Mark Andrews
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Mark Andrews
- Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF netw… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… joel jaeggli
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… Jim Martin
- Re: [homenet] [94attendees] IPv6 Prefix delegatio… Juliusz Chroboczek