Re: [homenet] draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation vs. DynDNS

Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> Mon, 23 July 2018 18:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] draft-ietf-homenet-front-end-naming-delegation vs. DynDNS
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Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> writes:

> Exporting names from the Homenet into the global namespace, on the
> other hand, should be done by the hosts, with no involvement of any
> third party (neither the ISP nor the Homenet itself). This is where I
> argue for some form of end-to-end, secured, dynamic DNS update.

Why? What is wrong with the owner of the network selecting which devices
/ services he/she wants globally reachable without each device/service
having to implement (and be configured for) an external naming provider?

-Toke