Re: [homenet] tuscles and conflicting goals / trust with draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming CFA

Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> Wed, 16 August 2017 20:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] tuscles and conflicting goals / trust with draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming CFA
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Hi,

I think I mostly agree with Michael, but I think I would emphasise a
couple other things:

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 03:50:36PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote:

> In Homenet, we are really trying to defend against
> ISP stupidity, while trying to leverage intelligence from the ISP to guard
> against end-user stupidity.

I think we're trying to make the homenet a proper part of the
Inter-net.  The Internet, of course, is a network of networks.  Part
of the idea there is that each network makes its own rules, which is
why we have to rely on voluntary interoperation.  Historically this
always depended on network administrators.  What I think we're trying
to do is to make network operation possible even when there is no
administrator.  Since there are lots of such basically
no-administration networks about, that doesn't seem crazy.

> ways to implement a policy (assuming the policy is known a-priori), and ways
> in which can we collect information about when the policy is failing so that
> things can get fixed; perhaps by a local geek, perhaps by a clueful ISP
> helpdesk, or eventually, perhaps by a smarter HNCP end-point.

I think this is right, given the goal I think we're aiming for.

A

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