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Re: [homenet] DNCP/HNCP Revisited

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 18 September 2019 21:12 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 17:12:23 -0400
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Cc: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>, "Ray Hunter (v6ops)" <v6ops@globis.net>, HOMENET <homenet@ietf.org>
To: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [homenet] DNCP/HNCP Revisited
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On Sep 18, 2019, at 4:57 PM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
>> The problem is, how???d the packet get so big that it was fragmented?
> If you have a discontinuous L2 MTU, you do not need fragmented packets
> to see packets disappear.

That’s kind of a non-sequitur.  The packet would need to be fragmented in this case.  The question is, how’d it get that big?  If we’re seeing packets large enough to fragment in a normal-sized network, that’s a really big problem (pardon the pun).

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