Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-09: (with DISCUSS)
Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> Wed, 18 November 2015 13:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-09: (with DISCUSS)
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Dear Kathleen, > 2. Can you explain why DTLS is a SHOULD and not a MUST? The bullet in > section 3 reads as if this is for use, not implementation. Is there a > MUST for implementation (I didn't see one, but maybe I missed that)? I am not one of the authors of the draft, but I'm the author of the independent reimplementation of HNCP (shncpd), so I have a fair understanding of what the protocol does. HNCP is an amazingly flexible protocol, and one that will hopefully be used well beyond it's original area of application. Many of the possible applications of HNCP don't require DTLS, either because the network is secured at a lower layer, or because they use a different application layer mechanism. To many people, a "Should Deploy, Must Implement" requirement in HNCP will just seem like an arbitrary and useless hoop, and will needlessly reduce the prestige and authority of the IETF. If a MUST related to DTLS in Homenet is required (and this is open to discussion), it belongs in a different document, not in the HNCP protocol specification. Regards, -- Juliusz
- [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ie… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Steven Barth
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Henning Rogge
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Mark Townsley
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Mark Andrews
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draf… Ted Lemon