Re: [homenet] Benoit Claise's No Objection on draft-ietf-homenet-dot-13: (with COMMENT)

Hi Ted,
> I can update the text as follows:
>
>          As a result,
> 	the use of '.home.', both as specified in RFC7788, and for other uses is deprecated.
> 	This should not be taken to mean that an explicit allocation by ICANN is superseded;
> 	this deprecation refers to uses of '.home.' as practiced at the time of publication
> 	of this document.
I'm surprised by "for the other uses".
I was thinking something such as:

         As a result, the use of '.home.', as specified in RFC7788, is deprecated.
	Since '.home.' was not requested to IANA according to RFC6761, no IANA action
         is required.

I'm probably over simplifying this, which probably makes it more complex.
A little bit too late for this quick telechat today, so let me discuss 
with Terry and come back to you.

Regards, Benoit
>
> As you can see, though, this is somewhat problematic, which is why we took out similar text previously.   I think this new text is less problematic than the old text, but personally I still prefer to just let people wonder what "deprecated" means.   I would actually rather leave it ambiguous, in the sense that this would also discourage ICANN allocating '.home.' as a GTLD.   However, I suspect that there are people on the IESG who understand this issue better than I do, and so I would appreciate it if you would discuss this during the telechat, if you read this in time, and see if you can get a consensus from the IESG on what to write here.   I am happy to make this change or not make it, as you all decide.

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>> On Aug 31, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Benoit Claise <bclaise@cisco.com> wrote:
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>> Benoit Claise has entered the following ballot position for
>> draft-ietf-homenet-dot-13: No Objection
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>> "As a result, the use of '.home' is deprecated."
>> I had to double-checked that .home was NOT in
>> https://www.iana.org/assignments/special-use-domain-names/special-use-domain-names.xhtml
>> .home was specified/requested in RFC7788 but never requested to IANA according
>> to RFC6761. If mentioned in the draft, this info might help others...
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