Re: [homenet] How many people have installed the homenet code?

Douglas Otis <doug.mtview@gmail.com> Thu, 22 October 2015 02:07 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] How many people have installed the homenet code?
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On 10/21/15 5:29 PM, Dave Taht wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Henning Rogge <hrogge@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> is it up from 8?
>>>
>>> Dave Täht
>>
>> I did experiments in the CORE network emulator with shncpd... not sure
>> if this counts.
>>
>> Henning Rogge
> 
> It counts! Has the channel assignment problem been solved in any way?
> 
> Dave Täht
> I just lost five years of my life to making wifi better. And, now...
> the FCC wants to make my work, illegal for people to install.

Dear Dave,

I share your concerns. Perhaps DD-WRT could include a canned
library with a flexible API. Perhaps we should defined this
API and not settle for something like NDIS. An API that
isolates power related adjustment code to meet regulator
requirements.  We have lived through the regulator hell in
the recent past. It was not pleasant.

Once specifications become clear, we also hope to do
testing. Are there good places to find code implementing
homenet dncp with scalable DNS-SD, and versions running ISIS
with scalable DNS-SD as well?  I would assume wifi running
ISIS also blocks port 5353 traffic at the bridge.

What is your opinion on a good router for testing?  Not
necessarily the cheapest because performance is also
important.  Should I look for the best DD-WRT hardware
running linux before these units are removed from the home
market? My fear is testing may soon require a license and
expensive custom hardware.

After all, ham operators are granted a fairly large latitude
in the equipment they manage, most of it fairly programmable
in many critical aspects.  A 4 watt handheld transmitter
costs less than $30 and comes with software needed to
program aspects like channel separation.

Regards,
Douglas Otis