[homenet] comments on babel-profile-03

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 13 November 2017 06:16 UTC

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I re-read babel-profile-03 and have a few comments (below)
offered as a WG participant (i.e. chair hat off) as part of

If any of these were discussed already, then just pointing
me at the archive is a fine answer. (And apologies for not
having been active in the WG earlier if there are such cases.)

- Req5: Is "MUST be... of a similar magnitude..." clear enough?

- 2.2: I'm not sure this entire section is useful. If there is
something specific we'd like to avoid (at a MUST NOT or NOT
RECOMMENDED level), it'd be better to say exactly what.

- NR2: I don't see the point of that. If

- section 3: "...using the existing redistribution mechanisms"
could maybe do with a reference for seme well known OS.

- NR3: I don't see what is not required here, that seems like a
straightforward 2119 MAY statement

- section 4: "only susceptible" seems like overstatment.  If
babel picks up routes from the OS and then annouces those,
then it seems the statement is not true, as any way of getting a
route into the OS will cause babel to propogate that, or am I
wrong? If not, then the babel profile seems to be susceptible to
any problems that cause a dodgy route to be installed in the OS

- section 4: "secured at a lower layer" includes links with no
security (in reality), is that right?

- section 4: "trusted X" is not a good term unless you say
who/what is trusting whom/what for what. So, s/trusted
links/links/ would be better.

- section 4: The security properties here seem to be directly
and wholly dependent on nodes being able to safely identify
interfaces into the categories in 5.1 of 7788. I need to do
some more reading to convince myself that that's a good thing
to assume. If there are weaknesses in that assumption, then
it'd be better to call those out here, as that'd help folks
who're implementing and might also help in the later process
for this draft. (IOW, I won't be the only one to ask, so we
might as well be up-front if there are weak points in that

- section 4: I dislike the plan of assuming lower layer security
but if that's the WG consensus, then that's what it is. Is
there a link to the discussion that concluded that in the WG
archive? I suspect we'll be asked by directorate reviewers/IESG
so good to have that now. If there's no such link, then we
probably should start a specific thread that ends with that
conclusion (or changes the draft.)