Re: [homenet] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-21: (with DISCUSS)

Daniel Migault <mglt.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 20 October 2022 20:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-naming-architecture-dhc-options-21: (with DISCUSS)
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Hi Paul,

Some brief element of response to your questions. While you are raising
comments within a DISCUSS see your comment as a very high level question on
what is the content of the draft with many questions related not to that
draft. I am happy to respond, but there is nothing actionable that can be
done, so please be more specific.

Yours,
Daniel

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 1:58 AM Paul Wouters via Datatracker <
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> This might be my misunderstanding

of homenet, so hopefully easy to resolve.
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> The HNA (hidden primary?) to DM (primary) DNS communication using DNS
> Update
> needs some kind of authentication, TSIG or SIG0 ?

no

> While TLS gives you privacy,
> the DNS Update cannot be done with only TLS (as far as I understand it).

please develop, but just in case, we do not use dns update to synchronize
the zone. we use AFXR/IXRF over TLS define din XoT.

> I
> don't see any DHCP options to relay authentication information for
> automatic
> deployment?


The FQDN "Distribution Manager FQDN" and "Reverse Distribution Manager FQDN"
are sufficent to set a TLS session.

So I don't understand how this would startup and be able to setup a
> secure DNS update channel ?
>

TLS needs only names. The certificates binds the names to a key used for
the authentication.


> There was also talk about using ACME for TLS certificates, but wouldn't
> that
> require that the HNA already has a provisioned and working homenet domain ?
>
The draft does not mention ACME so I do not see what you are referring to.


> (possibly more a question for the other draft, but just adding it here in
> case
> the hidden primary to primary is an "almost DNS Update" protocol that uses
> TLS
> instead f TSIG/SIG0.
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> not at all. we do not use dns update at all for synchronizing the zones.

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