Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF network, please ?

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> Tue, 03 November 2015 21:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] IPv6 Prefix delegation on IETF network, please ?
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> So what is the scope of the request and what needs to be simulated?

There are two distinct requests here:

 1. have the IETF DHCPv6 servers delegate a /60 (at least) to any client
    that requests it;

 2. have the hnetd software automatically deal with the situation in which
    no DHCPv6 server performs prefix delegation by doing Proxy-ND or
    something equally hackish.

Request (1) comes from Toerless.  Request (2) comes from me, and, as noted
Gabriel, probably reflects a typically European point of view (since
a number of ISPs provide native-ish IPv6 but don't do PD).  The two
requests are not incompatible.

-- Juliusz