[homenet] About draft-homenet-babel-profile

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> Thu, 16 November 2017 14:35 UTC

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Subject: [homenet] About draft-homenet-babel-profile
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Cross-posting between Babel and Homenet.

At this morning's Babel meeting, Barbara asked whether the work going on
in Babel on security means that homenet-babel-profile should be delayed.

I said no.  Please, no.  I beg you, Barbara, no.

I started working on this document in early autumn of 2016.  I've done
a lot of work on it, listened to a fair amount of feedback, and it's
reached a state where it's concise, accurate and understandable.

After over a year, my enthusiasm for this document is starting to wane.
I now still have enough energy to go through IESG review, I cannot promise
that it'll still be the case if it is delayed by a few months, or,
Eris forbid, years.

Let's please advance this document, and use the energy we'll save this way
to improve the security of both Babel and Homenet.

-- Juliusz