Re: [homenet] [Snac] summary of Gateway 2 Gateway side meeting

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Tue, 09 August 2022 01:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] [Snac] summary of Gateway 2 Gateway side meeting
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Marc Blanchet <marc.blanchet@viagenie.ca> wrote:
    >> Also, because ICN does not involve making active (in the TCP sense)
    >> connections to the sensors, it means that there is no inherent trust
    >> that must be created in the sensors in order for them to communicate:
    >> they simply announce their state and allow the network to do its
    >> thing.

    > I’m getting concerned that we are trying to boil the ocean. We should
    > reduce the scope of this work to what is achievable. The proponents
    > seemed to suggest a more narrow use case.

I think that I should have also reported that nobody in the side meeting
through that it belonged as part of the SNAC work.

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