Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02.txt
Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> Tue, 03 July 2018 20:30 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02.txt
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On 07/03/2018 12:44 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: > That's too bad. We're going to do a work session on the document, so > it would be helpful if you could do a sweep through it after this to > make sure that all your issues got resolved. Thanks for reviewing > and commenting in any case. If you can attend online, that might be > worthwhile. My biggest problem is that I don't have a very clear idea of how this all fits together. Maybe i'm completely dense and should get it, but i've also been out in the wilderness for a long time and my tracking of the progress is here is tenuous at best, which might mean i'm not alone. Like i said, i'm a fan of ascii art, and love ladder diagrams. I know they're a pain, but they're really helpful, imo. Mike > > On Tue, Jul 3, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com > <mailto:mike@mtcc.com>> wrote: > > On 07/02/2018 05:21 PM, Ted Lemon wrote: >> I didn’t get all the updates I wanted to into this version. A lot >> of the issues you mention here were discussed in my presentation >> in London. Will you be in Montreal? > > No. > > Mike > >> >> On Mon, Jul 2, 2018 at 7:43 PM Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com >> <mailto:mike@mtcc.com>> wrote: >> >> One thing that confuses me reading this is where (if any) is the >> "caching resolver" expected >> to reside. in section 2.2, last bullet it makes mention of an >> ISP >> resolver, but it's not clear whether >> that resolver is the same as the homenet resolver. if it's >> not that >> resolver, maybe it would be better >> to defer that discussion somehow? that is, say that it can >> happen, but >> defer how it might happen >> until later. >> >> nit: you should move the terminology section up at least one >> section. >> >> I think this draft says that each homenet router can >> implement the >> naming functionality. how do they >> negotiate who is authoritative? If it's in another document, >> it might be >> nice to call that out. >> >> I'm not groking why this requires the use of ULA's for v6. It >> doesn't >> seem to require that ipv4 use >> rfc 1918 addresses? why does the naming function care which >> address >> space an address is in? >> what if i don't want to use ULA's? >> >> In section 6, it says that request are sent to the local >> resolver which >> is either a caching resolver >> or a proxy. Does that imply that the caching resolver cannot be >> authoritative too? I don't think >> that's what you mean, but it's sort of confusing. Some ascii >> art might >> be helpful to show the >> topology possibilities >> >> thanks, >> >> Mike >> >> On 07/02/2018 01:38 PM, internet-drafts@ietf.org >> <mailto:internet-drafts@ietf.org> wrote: >> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line >> Internet-Drafts directories. >> > This draft is a work item of the Home Networking WG of the >> IETF. >> > >> > Title : Simple Homenet Naming and >> Service Discovery Architecture >> > Authors : Ted Lemon >> > Daniel Migault >> > Stuart Cheshire >> > Filename : draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02.txt >> > Pages : 15 >> > Date : 2018-07-02 >> > >> > Abstract: >> > This document describes how names are published and >> resolved on >> > homenets, and how hosts are configured to use these >> names to discover >> > services on homenets. It presents the complete >> architecture, and >> > describes a simple subset of that architecture that can >> be used in >> > low-cost homenet routers. >> > >> > >> > The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is: >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming/ >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming/> >> > >> > There are also htmlized versions available at: >> > >> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02 >> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02> >> > >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02 >> <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02> >> > >> > A diff from the previous version is available at: >> > >> https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02 >> <https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming-02> >> > >> > >> > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the >> time of submission >> > until the htmlized version and diff are available at >> tools.ietf.org <http://tools.ietf.org>. >> > >> > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: >> > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ >> <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/> >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > homenet mailing list >> > homenet@ietf.org <mailto:homenet@ietf.org> >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> homenet mailing list >> homenet@ietf.org <mailto:homenet@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> homenet mailing list >> homenet@ietf.org <mailto:homenet@ietf.org> >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet >> <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet> > > _______________________________________________ homenet mailing > list homenet@ietf.org <mailto:homenet@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet > <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet> > > _______________________________________________ > homenet mailing list > homenet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet
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