Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Fri, 17 June 2016 13:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
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Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote: > Let us please not open this particular can of worms: > - how does software running on my laptop, which just connected to an > unknown network, find out what is the local translation of "home"? It doesn't. It uses HNCP. > - how does a user, even one who knows the local language, find out > which of the possible translations of "home" is the right one? (What > should it be for Greek? oikos? opiti? You are allowed to consult > speakers of Greek, but you must get them to reach consensus before the > end of the week.) > - how do I type οίκος on my French keyboard? You don't. You type "printer", and/or select "printer" from a selection menu. > There's some precedent for this kind of problems -- Outlook used to > (incorrectly) internationalise the prefix "Re:" in e-mail replies. yes. I agree that this is annoying. > Since software couldn't be expected to know all of the Microsoftese for > "Re", you'd end up with subject lines such as "Re: Rép: Antw: Odp: > ...". (Re, of course, is Latin for "about such thing", not the > abbreviation of "reply".) That's definitely a good point. Outlook should have a bug that the English translation of "Re" is wrong. > (The right choice for Homenet, of course, is ".domus". Although, now > that I think about it, RFC 1034 doesn't mention whether domain names > are in the nominative or the locative, so perhaps we should also > consider ".domo".) I'm open to this idea... I prefer domus. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@sandelman.ca>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Peter Koch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Erik Kline
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Jacques Latour
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home avri doria
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Tim Wicinski
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ralph Droms
- [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ralph Droms