Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
Markus Stenberg <markus.stenberg@iki.fi> Fri, 17 June 2016 08:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home
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On 17.6.2016, at 10.37, Pierre Pfister <pierre.pfister@darou.fr> wrote: > I think this is a key point indeed. > > mDNS works really hard to *not* show any name to the user. > I would like it to be the same for homenet, but I am not sure we have a complete solution for no-name multi-link service discovery for homenet yet. Agreed; dealing with naming collisions is mainly the painful part on implementation front. > So either we seriously address the service discovery problem. And we make the assumption that non-geeky users shall not see names, never. In which case the name we pick does not matter. > Or we assume users will see names, in which case allocating a user-friendly name is utterly important. For home use case, I suspect there is no need for multiple zones _at all_, at least visible to the user, and users do not typically care about the domain unless they want remote access (and I am not sure many really do, and in that case it would be something sourced from ISP anyway). e.g. even if we (for implementation purposes) use hybrid proxy underneath, the published data would be just ‘legacy browse’ (flat, no domain at all) names and not ‘browse’ (full domain _including_ whatever .hn.asdf.arpa we wind up with). To make names unique we might want to garbage-fy them if we want to use mdns as source of information, but that’s it. Cheers, -Markus
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- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Peter Koch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Suzanne Woolf
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Erik Kline
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Jacques Latour
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home avri doria
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Pierre Pfister
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Edmon Chung
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- [homenet] alternatives to .home Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ray Bellis
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Tim Wicinski
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis Ralph Droms
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- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] RFC 7788-bis (and also draft-cheshi… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Joe Touch
- Re: [homenet] alternatives to .home Ralph Droms