Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-09: (with DISCUSS)

Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 18 November 2015 18:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Kathleen Moriarty's Discuss on draft-ietf-homenet-hncp-09: (with DISCUSS)
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> On Nov 18, 2015, at 12:23 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>; wrote:
> 
> Ted,
> 
>> The bottom line is that I think the reason you have given for not making DTLS MTI is a really bad one.   There is a perfectly good DTLS implementation out there, which is quite easy to use as far as I can tell,
> 
> So I am puzzled. If that is the case, it is not the HNCP implementer who has to
> write any DTLS code (in my book, the word "implement" in a protocol spec means
> "write code"). At most there would need to be a few extra instructions to wrap
> a socket in DTLS, and that code would likely be ifdeffed because it would
> only be used when needed. Which sounds exactly like a SHOULD to me.
> Or maybe "mandatory to be able to switch on." In any case, not part of the
> HNCP protocol itself.

Hmm, I'm reading it the same way as Ted.  Right now, you have a SHOULD use and while I'm okay with that, a MUST implement enables the option for the SHOULD use, but that they are separate.

If there is a strong enough argument against MTI, I'll be okay with that.  I haven't seen it yet.  The SHOULD use can stay to meet some of the arguments stated, but can a MUST implement be added?

Thanks,
Kathleen 

> 
> Regards
>   Brian
>