Re: [homenet] Martin Vigoureux's No Objection on draft-ietf-homenet-babel-profile-06: (with COMMENT)

Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com> Mon, 07 May 2018 19:39 UTC

Return-Path: <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>
X-Original-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: homenet@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AB20129502; Mon, 7 May 2018 12:39:37 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -1.911
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.911 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_DKIMWL_WL_HIGH=-0.01] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0dEL1upOQr2F; Mon, 7 May 2018 12:39:34 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from EUR01-HE1-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-he1eur01on070b.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe1e::70b]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4F81012783A; Mon, 7 May 2018 12:39:34 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nokia.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-nokia-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; bh=Z6Jun2U+BroGvs2eOXtVuOpoMmTIYrNH1RC0K6BJzps=; b=tWpQ4spxyNGf15BV/Vh4q2sxgIH4A1FwvZkAkT2y+kPWzpmepoPQewHand6T8CkGvFZXt35iWhh3B1n3N8D+Lrj7HxE5zlbhypaHSISmXW90KhA4k1cM01jkCc0lAnNeAtHf21BcQ9MoB3TDUYyokaEi9AysL0qSt0sHIhv+pWA=
Authentication-Results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=martin.vigoureux@nokia.com;
Received: from [IPv6:2a01:cb04:a1a:4c00:bd35:702c:aca4:2eb1] (2a01:cb04:a1a:4c00:bd35:702c:aca4:2eb1) by VI1PR0701MB2144.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10a6:800:30::13) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2, cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) id 15.20.755.10; Mon, 7 May 2018 19:39:30 +0000
To: Markus Stenberg <markus.stenberg@iki.fi>, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr>
Cc: homenet-chairs@ietf.org, BARBARA H STARK <bs7652@att.com>, homenet@ietf.org, The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, draft-ietf-homenet-babel-profile@ietf.org
References: <152571726188.1261.2707542199316189665.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <87k1sf6z79.wl-jch@irif.fr> <19B2D686-3A6C-4B24-8A86-F2D82412CF74@iki.fi>
From: Martin Vigoureux <martin.vigoureux@nokia.com>
Message-ID: <d9398903-3c21-5685-9cbd-71955daab74e@nokia.com>
Date: Mon, 7 May 2018 21:37:31 +0200
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.5.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <19B2D686-3A6C-4B24-8A86-F2D82412CF74@iki.fi>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Content-Language: en-GB
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
X-Originating-IP: [2a01:cb04:a1a:4c00:bd35:702c:aca4:2eb1]
X-ClientProxiedBy: MR2P264CA0035.FRAP264.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM (2603:10a6:500::23) To VI1PR0701MB2144.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com (2603:10a6:800:30::13)
X-MS-PublicTrafficType: Email
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-HT: Tenant
X-Microsoft-Antispam: UriScan:; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(7020095)(4652020)(8989080)(5600026)(48565401081)(4534165)(4627221)(201703031133081)(201702281549075)(8990040)(2017052603328)(7193020); SRVR:VI1PR0701MB2144;
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; VI1PR0701MB2144; 3:z3eb9HSUTrlhIC4aDLIu20U+E+rBctz/LrYo2R7V2dRDIZLuc3CBWHhzKb0DpSegrLKD9AHkMH+aweluItpk4t/wltuw0qxl+W4+28pO2qgZoY2V6p1tBQxVRpLURR5UKCC7OJmKee18z9emt2pTg7u7oVHdVinwI5yNxBS8WRcuEqoOyDUJdK9apQDKr4qBjMj0ZNNg2ytgxLQcUVmVgp2LB5ZklN8XJa/Yk9f9RCLXfQMw49VPqQbXmb8L9jc9; 25:d8qJe3AcumnkxrpCrMIhMNTERvZO2zFX09I+LhsTKULITND7bGYzkf0aO71slXEKEamUA6ihjoEnBczF/5uSemObp0vVUDRissHfM7XHMx2szViyryY8/SMTK2P5DWp9/raANzgkU+aJ1Wkaz39ACrV7B4SSn3YHz1n3RRFWMQ3CouxgcDaxLOsttJYiae7dxT6hgCasmd7Z2d1dTBK8Y0xRaEcpojNH/IUGm+FsNmqIjVhO7HDZF5NP8FP0faq2BuLeOKMsT9z+kdju7Srp5TlDa1BKmzVT50N2rZGNv9NzH5J7SyfEqYx8cqo6/qmgJ3vj5bC35ObvbYPNC8DngQ==; 31:y4KrMEm7T9OFI4asUlQBJW7puTKNIvBVwRVe7XzdQcRM3zVRLTq9gHSu5YIIM8tsHyrcH1Krp9rEkcdYo8+f/WCNKDLSZm1ETUV+/xVL3cDjBJzYXe7iIe7JP7zDYDbrmrGojexCJUEqGMtY1PCd0utnQXblE94vubc1o01Iw/eRR78ABKG5SPAwOiPJ4/zIPzjXqcttHiKFMAcJD0PUM7eXs60SlR5aJ/LV/nyzIjk=
X-MS-TrafficTypeDiagnostic: VI1PR0701MB2144:
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; VI1PR0701MB2144; 20: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; 4:O2V9xYfenY08UEsdmHHAc6HCpAOfKk1OIF4+KTjuhJZUcrjnFXegiQAura9BTtakusZJ8KVYxbV9LM+XIuDWzgHgtZiEArbz1wV3KbcOrVcDeWax+H3boQFWItPctZ6uxQ/ba+uW7ZyBKWcJZdaKM8SNWtLYCj/eyviNvQKrpj2zzhNyLif7pMWw1IPVQ4thIbMzxefBRrWHP49meh/WTD7gY8QoaOBckCorFZNNYq4654kO6pP/cdKO0vbdPAQCK8ebccRJDuuckQVXj0wqnA==
X-Microsoft-Antispam-PRVS: <VI1PR0701MB2144DF1B4DA1BC0C6BC9FEA38C9B0@VI1PR0701MB2144.eurprd07.prod.outlook.com>
X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-Test: UriScan:;
X-MS-Exchange-SenderADCheck: 1
X-Exchange-Antispam-Report-CFA-Test: BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:(6040522)(2401047)(8121501046)(5005006)(3002001)(93006095)(93001095)(10201501046)(3231254)(11241501184)(806099)(944501410)(52105095)(6055026)(149027)(150027)(6041310)(20161123562045)(20161123560045)(201703131423095)(201702281528075)(20161123555045)(201703061421075)(201703061406153)(20161123564045)(20161123558120)(6072148)(201708071742011); SRVR:VI1PR0701MB2144; BCL:0; PCL:0; RULEID:; SRVR:VI1PR0701MB2144;
X-Forefront-PRVS: 066517B35B
X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: SFV:NSPM; SFS:(10019020)(979002)(346002)(396003)(376002)(366004)(39860400002)(39380400002)(377424004)(199004)(189003)(52146003)(65956001)(23676004)(86362001)(52116002)(11346002)(52396003)(2870700001)(2486003)(316002)(53936002)(50466002)(54906003)(58126008)(67846002)(110136005)(31696002)(65806001)(64126003)(1706002)(6116002)(16526019)(97736004)(59450400001)(386003)(186003)(76176011)(46003)(2906002)(47776003)(446003)(5660300001)(2616005)(6486002)(65826007)(44832011)(476003)(8676002)(4326008)(8936002)(81156014)(105586002)(31686004)(6246003)(25786009)(478600001)(486006)(3260700006)(229853002)(7736002)(36756003)(305945005)(106356001)(81166006)(68736007)(969003)(989001)(999001)(1009001)(1019001); DIR:OUT; SFP:1102; SCL:1; SRVR:VI1PR0701MB2144; H:[IPv6:2a01:cb04:a1a:4c00:bd35:702c:aca4:2eb1]; FPR:; SPF:None; LANG:en; PTR:InfoNoRecords; A:1; MX:1;
Received-SPF: None (protection.outlook.com: nokia.com does not designate permitted sender hosts)
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: =?utf-8?B?MTtWSTFQUjA3MDFNQjIxNDQ7MjM6amIzTFcyL2wyTkZhMnB4eWpDSTVJSW5r?= =?utf-8?B?b1dJRm95dlpxT29BRkhKNzJMejcxYkJadERGd2lxdlVlSzNIVGR0VzNOREUr?= =?utf-8?B?TnVkY2YrSWxIV3NkVzRQandMQVVIODZYNjFpV0xSd0hVWlNuQ1dUOE8wdW41?= =?utf-8?B?RkU3QXp3UGxVQ05jMTBhMndLMW5teFBaTThUc0JRRFV4K0IrOTBqNDBoalZ4?= =?utf-8?B?SzlPOSt3MktGQlNiOXdXRElUcjkrN1FQOE1CTW1yQTRReU1VUy94alFlUWVP?= =?utf-8?B?S2VpeUVhQXh5d1hrMzRKdVdlWXM1dytYaFU4ZzZSVERUZVJ4bERwQ0o3V1Fs?= =?utf-8?B?R2pQdytTQ2pjTEg3RGpWS05oVGJIV2M4Y3pURUMyejJWQ0dFaEl2Ry9yTkpj?= =?utf-8?B?dXAvY2RVQ3lhYzhXUUJaaGg4emVXV2RJcXYzT2R4djNZdGJiYUFNSlhhTDZl?= =?utf-8?B?VFM3aG9ZUGJqelpxN1A1NGFRZlVUajhmaDdFYUVMSThNVzl2WTZHQWNBZ3BN?= =?utf-8?B?QnlhM3JPbVlhRWt6Z1JDSEl4L2I1MnlBWSs5b2g1WHQzZGJ0WkNNcTJ4cDFQ?= =?utf-8?B?eHBxWEJVYllINEtqcDVWMFQ1QzZ2ZmhMSEZCaHNQWWhNeGNNUmtDeSttcHFh?= =?utf-8?B?YU5HTHhOYTEvOFg4VUJkbSs4Z3lyN0UyQmRwK3FNNU5XcWk0bndCYUttL3RW?= =?utf-8?B?ZTBCb1lBK00zUUNZdXVtOE0yb3FIVXNnZFFMV2JFd1Q4OHUrS0hLK2FManpo?= =?utf-8?B?SGR6Qm00d1BPM1VQQkQ0ZVNNVlNtVGxpT2FQWkFzaTRJU21MWmxZckRlYkpN?= =?utf-8?B?Mjd1dlIrRWpLRHNLaXJ2VVI3ZFB0YS9NRFRZZDVZREF0VG9XL3NvcVlLNHdT?= =?utf-8?B?MDl6cTJwWi8vSWQyRnJYSm5pdElkMjd6cHgyRURWbjEvdlp1RnJqclBtNHBN?= =?utf-8?B?WElmdGcrQVNvZ3JGTldyWXlFT1ZBV1BlSjdtd1FQcHUrYlZkZTdEUHA1cEJm?= =?utf-8?B?L0ZjYTR4b1J2TEhlU1pzNTNOUWtWRzcrWFRvMzc0SHNpZ3VTNmxRU3Zrb3ky?= =?utf-8?B?cEN4dHRnMWZ2WnNzNWo1TTdZK0xWcEllZ3hFbithdHZsYmdCa2ZLbS9YRm5J?= =?utf-8?B?RU1ncFpYam9oWm5YK2hFa3JQTEMzQXhqWG15eXpRUUpjNDR2dWpjYW9ZQlpZ?= =?utf-8?B?Mlo2bTMwRXdrbEN6RHZIK3lTbUZOUU9mNG9hTWJJOXh3V25jWkFSVDlOdSt6?= =?utf-8?B?QXVtTldyMDBrYjBQbWNDUERiZVdCNE5OUEV2cUZnWmxSQ2F4TnJOcmFPYnF2?= =?utf-8?B?ejhlSkU4NUxtM0V3Ry8xSjJkY2I5alhrdDh4WFVSeXJTa0RLSDAzMTdHRXli?= =?utf-8?B?YjlVMjZ1RW0zMGNKTllrZGhwYzlMNVl0M2k2RzdFWFUrSUJPcnBFYTJuY3p4?= =?utf-8?B?KzlRb2N6SjRXUTcya3pENFVwMXlFWU9tSkpiZG9vaVlleWV2L21iNUgxSmVs?= =?utf-8?B?Sk53TVY4b3JwaHh1azkwbzZlUVF1dlpZNlRMbzJtdnNsWG9xdzVhTktFcXJ2?= =?utf-8?B?dXJsQ1g0bjQxd3krL0s0Y2RhY2x1ck1LRXFLRHhEUWRsUDNVRUxyRDJvdWVw?= =?utf-8?B?TUsyK28yNEVxYkJtc3poaS9sbmhJeHhIaFBzM2sxcmI0S0JlVGhaeXZkU2ZQ?= =?utf-8?B?Y09mY0NEWk1mNGxIZnlieDIya0VxSVdsV0Q2dWt3bFpLYy8rWm1jbnA1Wlpp?= =?utf-8?B?amdkdUxEM1lHYWZ3S2NuWExaOWIvcWVRazhHTy81M0hDVEVCTHFrU1VFRVl5?= =?utf-8?B?aWIxU3Y5T0hhTTVPd0hoMGVoRmUzOW9kM2xLek9jd3FmRW9ySjdNNVVHdXJk?= =?utf-8?B?VFFramhhTEVjM3MzUzZBYzF0MTMwbHBwcUMrd1ljN09kTnkyUHR3Q0RWUlJy?= =?utf-8?B?cU1SVmsrZWNieVErcU9FL1NTTXFjUHNWTzNYcklzOVdxZWtqR2tvY3FZSHVK?= =?utf-8?B?Z25BVUxhTmpBOW9nU0V0RjVhNXFUL1hSMTdNak5LZXJrTEkxZlAyRzJMZkFW?= =?utf-8?B?c1F3dEZlUngwWlJiaTk3MWRVemtESW8vR0p3STBTeUZtc0swZ2o4Ly95Mkhl?= =?utf-8?B?MjhVUT09?=
X-Microsoft-Antispam-Message-Info: olqtVsVaPyIxZkm1lFLCs7vuCqEU62SXBesBaY2keKjLJJbzbS4Rvvo9FsDheizVWPDPNq3AKCUMNZKJTYSmJcJZZYd02609AGkHmbvIfqcF4XCmiVt//F0yNTbYCfKFTn39YLdLra8UBmtKka1PGbMbMtwbkk5+ncNODA9GCe0x2qMrpyRpgifecrwDnLYcEpLHsi12qBw1y5cOrY7qPwWsmSmziDk76xEPq4Rvmmt7R7c7IyBjnsfBVuQgdEBY
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; VI1PR0701MB2144; 6:puOqfCoGXjPXqKWzQ0wvJzcsNd8yeX3Ciiief4LayVJt8SPW9woijJQBpm5ytXWrxjQSZOZU/pr/PLZO4xtLhxoTZ7FbEiqU1W1f7oD8Ps/KB0FdNDvqs+KoWLY7nqPTYXcF86oCpkt+8zzBAthtCTzAO7lN3jY/bDOmYsZFD5uRnE5xkpy9MPcXXltjKchi90809ePUzjabDfxmVkEBiIlbEX83u71sbvvgRPgIBuYLjhk0jFgJslzt2jxUm+Tqybp/uMxkPmyKLnP21owGZVNmbgK+x9j3HhSeA8z0OKidtjt8R+noG/zKVr/s7UsM9bVy6MXNTMC5v18h7Yz6HnL1OqrtZmnzffSWKuQDSmjN4RHoLettcYlQZBy7BYQoEF57gWsaV7nR5wTACpC2D5gTM3t6a8LyGlLhrufveNUqxbRB9drGTyWjUqLrgHW4xsWcasEzwr4+KpH0Ml5G0w==; 5:PsiQ94C6SUv995b96CrBhgCm7kL6myThVCW548GlwkxhHUv2mAyAJOZDNvlSnpfQ/F5b/W9CXOUUjEINhLC97jSk59iWKmSezdU1a9EH+YSuqEYMVdXeNzxiLlQtFFvNUvvsFIgbPmH+NZDuqamD1VcHirMBMg+N2FEmblJ5OjA=; 24:KS7UbTZ4ZrPNwRkz9jLlB0Tz18IFUE9sJpi895uSxX2Hw4Pxr30QVyZ1fKPnwMlOldzYlGbqeV4fn49K1Pub5HbyJzuScG951kkS37HKm64=
SpamDiagnosticOutput: 1:99
SpamDiagnosticMetadata: NSPM
X-Microsoft-Exchange-Diagnostics: 1; VI1PR0701MB2144; 7:2SoXeJF6dquQN8giKw9ng+YAppby9YF6F7QNclQfB7PF15PKaG9IGfB3+3wN+q/9yzSUv/B0wqCg5Bjki7DxpgvCnAOerI7Q4tlIHN3NRgblokTE+EupMlCIshAypqrSiBBuEAofItEYw8huzKkg8TIJLaYEbqZZdvpU62bT4MQdlMU49V3r1Zq1bO9AL2o8BDYdnLyZaNh37OmgNOSIq/1PVEbVVKgbNyCbNcj6gWQKlak7jBh4E9zerNmMFhMe
X-MS-Office365-Filtering-Correlation-Id: 479ee770-b12b-4cf4-4189-08d5b45240d0
X-OriginatorOrg: nokia.com
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 May 2018 19:39:30.6907 (UTC)
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Network-Message-Id: 479ee770-b12b-4cf4-4189-08d5b45240d0
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-FromEntityHeader: Hosted
X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-Id: 5d471751-9675-428d-917b-70f44f9630b0
X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: VI1PR0701MB2144
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/homenet/X1RxPugvwOnWkuMjBNG0lZmSVN0>
Subject: Re: [homenet] Martin Vigoureux's No Objection on draft-ietf-homenet-babel-profile-06: (with COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: homenet@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: IETF Homenet WG mailing list <homenet.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/homenet>, <mailto:homenet-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/homenet/>
List-Post: <mailto:homenet@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:homenet-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet>, <mailto:homenet-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 19:39:37 -0000

Hello Julius,

this was indeed a bit rapidly written.
And effectively, Markus identified what I meant. Thank you.

-m

Le 2018-05-07 à 21:34, Markus Stenberg a écrit :
> On 7 May 2018, at 22.30, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@irif.fr> wrote:
>>> you should refer to 8174.
>> Perhaps you could kindly justify your advice?  Non-capitalised "must" is
>> used just once in this document, and I don't see any opportunity for
>> ambiguity.
> 
> Perhaps he refers to the RFC8174 update to the boilerplate:
> 
>     === OLD ===
> ..
>     The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
>     "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this
>     document are to be interpreted as described in RFC 2119.
> 
> 
>     === NEW ===
> ..
>        The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL
>        NOT", "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED",
>        "MAY", and "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as
>        described in BCP 14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they
>        appear in all capitals, as shown here.
> 
>     === END ===
> 
> 
> -Markus
>