Re: [homenet] How many people have installed the homenet code?

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> Sat, 23 April 2016 16:40 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] How many people have installed the homenet code?
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> I’m starting by running shncpd on a boundary router and tried a trivial
> installation.

Excellent, thanks.

> I don’t see how dns gets updated. Are such updates out of scope of
> shncpd?

Do you mean, (1) how is a DNS resolver advertised to clients, or
(2) how clients are registered in DNS ?

(1) is done by using the -N flag on the router advertising an external
connection (-E).  This flag can be repeated multiple times.

(2) is a host issue, so I believe it is better handled outside of shncpd,
but I'm quite willing to be convinced otherwise.  (The obvious alternative
would be to have shncpd update DNS when it gives out a DHCP lease, but
that would mean giving up on stateless autoconf.)

> Are they in scope for the other homenet protocols?

Markus, Steven, Ted?  What's the plan here?  Do we count on mDNS proxying,
or should we be advertising an RFC 2136 server over HNCP?

-- Juliusz