Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-dot-10.txt

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 01 August 2017 13:22 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] I-D Action: draft-ietf-homenet-dot-10.txt
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On Aug 1, 2017, at 2:01 AM, Walter H. <walter.h@mathemainzel.info> wrote:
> there SHOULD NOT be the ACME authentication or any neccessarity of any
> other authentication, as these domain names need not be unique ...

In order for a PKI solution to work, it has to be possible for any given cert to apply to a unique name, the ownership of which can be defended somehow.   The CABF has spoken unequivocally on this topic:

https://www.digicert.com/internal-names.htm <https://www.digicert.com/internal-names.htm>

The point of having PKI in the homenet is so that we have secure connections between browsers and servers, and so that users aren't trained to click through certificate warnings just to get things working.   Any solution to this problem has to meet those two requirements.   And to achieve the second requirement, the CABF is going to want it to be the case that the cert identifies a specific endpoint for communication.

When I say "I don't know how to do that," this is what I'm talking about.   Actually, I do know how to do it: get a public delegation.