Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming
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To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-simple-naming
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On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 06:32:26PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > Users need to be able to connect policies (including, but not just security > policies) to both pretty names ("the office printer"), and to stable > identies. Neither thing should have anything to do with IP addresses > (which get renumbered), nor to MAC addresses (which may be more frequently > randomized, even for things like printers). I think this is right, but it seems to me we could be slightly more formal. Over time, a device has one of more MAC address; the MAC address must not be treated as a stable identifier because it may change over time. At a given time, a given MAC address may have 0 or more IP addresses assigned. If any MAC address has an IP address assigned to it, that address is expected to be assigned automatically. It is expected to change. An {IP, MAC} tuple should not be treated as a stable identifier because both elements of the identifier may change over time. Each device will have at least one name. Some names are automatically assigned through the workings of mDNS or hybrid multicast DNS (or both). In particular, when devices are available by mDNS they are available by name, but the names are checked (and if need be changed) algorithmically in order to prevent duplication. Names are unique within the scope of the homenet, and devices will change their names in the event of collision. Some names are generated by users, and assigned to devices, depnding on whether the device supports that functionality. These names MUST NOT be changed algorithmically by devices, and MUST NOT collide with automatically-generated names. These names may be globally-unique, or may be unique only in the scope of the homenet. I _think_ that covers all the cases, but I might have missed something. A -- Andrew Sullivan ajs@anvilwalrusden.com
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… STARK, BARBARA H
- [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-simp… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Andrew Sullivan
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Daniel Migault
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Juliusz Chroboczek
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… David R. Oran
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Daniel Migault
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Mark Andrews
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Thomas
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson
- Re: [homenet] Introduction to draft-ietf-homenet-… Michael Richardson