Re: [homenet] Let's make in-home ULA presence a MUST !?

Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 15 October 2014 16:00 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Let's make in-home ULA presence a MUST !?
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Ted - you wrote something that surprised me (in line)...

On Oct 15, 2014, at 11:34 AM 10/15/14, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:

> On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:04 AM, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
>> I explained my reasoning.  Multiple times.  Here and on other lists.  Again
>> and again.
> 
> When you repeat yourself again and again, people stop listening to you.   There was a consensus call done on this, and the architecture document contains the results of that consensus.   If you have some additional objection to raise, you should raise it, but I'm very sorry, you do have to show your work.   You can't just make assertions about what you think is true, and expect your opinion to count in the consensus call.   We don't vote in the IETF, so opinions just don't make sense in that context.
> 
> In particular, you appear to be arguing as if ULAs and GUAs are treated identically by IPv6 stacks, but they are not.

Really?  In what way are they not treated identically by IPv6 stacks?

- Ralph

>    So while I agree that there is a real problem making this work for multi-homed homenets (a problem, by the way, which homenet has decided to try to solve), this is completely orthogonal to the question of whether we should use ULAs in the homenet.
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