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Re: [homenet] tuscles and conflicting goals / trust with draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming CFA

Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 17 August 2017 14:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] tuscles and conflicting goals / trust with draft-tldm-simple-homenet-naming CFA
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Andrew Sullivan <ajs@anvilwalrusden.com> wrote:
    >> ways to implement a policy (assuming the policy is known a-priori),
    >> and ways
    >> in which can we collect information about when the policy is failing
    >> so that
    >> things can get fixed; perhaps by a local geek, perhaps by a clueful ISP
    >> helpdesk, or eventually, perhaps by a smarter HNCP end-point.

    > I think this is right, given the goal I think we're aiming for.

This suggests to me that the next step in HOMENET, which I think the naming
architecture could lead, is to provide for (automatic) collection of
statistics for diagnostics purposes.
i.e. Homenet OAM.

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