Re: [homenet] Updating DNS [was: How many people have installed the homenet code?]

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Wed, 11 May 2016 17:22 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 13:21:33 -0400
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To: Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr>
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Subject: Re: [homenet] Updating DNS [was: How many people have installed the homenet code?]
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Hm, okay.   So perhaps you think of DNS data as being higher-layer than
routing data and numbering data?

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek <
jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr>; wrote:

> > I tend to think of routing protocols and election protocols as
> "intelligent",
> > but perhaps you meant something different... :)
>
> > E.g., did you mean "stateful?"
>
> No (HNCP manages quite a bit of hard state, unfortunately).  I think
> I meant "able to interpret higher-layer data", but I'm no longer sure ;-)
>
> -- Juliusz
>