Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture-00.txt
Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com> Fri, 25 March 2016 12:29 UTC
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From: Ralph Droms <rdroms.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture-00.txt
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(BCC dnssd WG mailing list) Ted - now would be really good time to discuss draft-ietf-dnssd-hybrid, as it's in WG last call on the dnssd WG mailing list. - Ralph > On Mar 24, 2016, at 8:02 AM 3/24/16, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > > I've published a straw-man homenet naming architecture document for discussion at IETF in Buenos Aires. This document is a first attempt, and represents just my thoughts, not the thoughts of the architecture team as a whole, because I didn't get it out in time for us to discuss it--that's why I published it just in my name. > > It's a 20-page document, but should be a fairly painless read. There's some extra detail in it that doesn't belong in the final document because I wanted to include some ideas that need to be fleshed out in other drafts, which don't yet exist. > > One big issue that DNSSD folks will recognize is that this draft does not adopt mdns hybrid as a solution. This is something I'd particularly like to discuss--when I reread the MDNS hybrid draft in the process of working on this document, I wasn't happy with the direction it had gone--it didn't look like it would really be consistent with the goals of the homenet project. But I may have misunderstood the intention of the draft, and I it may also be that the Homenet working group would prefer to settle for something that basically works rather than pushing to reinvent the wheel. > > Anyway, please don't take this document as an assertion that this is definitely what the homenet naming architecture should look like. Your reactions to what's written in the document - agreement, disagreement, why is this missing, why is this here, will help to move the discussion forward and get us to something that the working group can have consensus on. > > Thanks! > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: <Internet-Drafts@ietf.org <mailto:Internet-Drafts@ietf.org>> > Date: Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 12:45 PM > Subject: I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture-00.txt > To: i-d-announce@ietf.org <mailto:i-d-announce@ietf.org> > > > A new Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. > > > Title : Homenet Naming and Service Discovery Architecture > Author(s) : T. Lemon > Filename : draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture > Pages : 20 > Date : 2016-03-23 > > This document recommends a naming and service discovery resolution > architecture for homenets. This architecture covers the publication > and resolution of names of hosts on the homenet both within the > homenet and on the public internet, and the use of such names for > offering and discovering services that exist on the homenet both > within the homenet and on the public internet. Security and privacy > implications and techniques for automatically and administratively > setting security and privacy policies for such names are also > described. > > A URL for this Internet-Draft is: > https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture-00.txt <https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lemon-homenet-naming-architecture-00.txt> > > Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at: > ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/ <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/> > > Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader > implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the > Internet-Draft. > > > _______________________________________________ > I-D-Announce mailing list > I-D-Announce@ietf.org <mailto:I-D-Announce@ietf.org> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announce > Internet-Draft <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/i-d-announceInternet-Draft> directories: http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html <http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html> > or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt <ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt> > > > _______________________________________________ > homenet mailing list > homenet@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/homenet
- [homenet] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-nam… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] Fwd: I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet… Ray Hunter (v6ops)
- Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-nami… Ralph Droms
- Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-nami… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-nami… Ted Lemon
- Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-nami… Markus Stenberg
- Re: [homenet] I-D ACTION:draft-lemon-homenet-nami… Ted Lemon