Re: [homenet] How many people have installed the homenet code?

Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> Thu, 21 April 2016 14:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] How many people have installed the homenet code?
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> So I tried to spin hnetd up on a fedora vm, and found it fighting the
> distro set-up. Maybe the implementation isn’t supposed to co-exist with
> other network controlling software on the same computer. What’s my best
> approach to getting the homenet protocols running as a proof of concept?

Hnetd is designed to integrate into the OpenWRT ecosystem, which it does
remarkably well.  Because of that, it depends on a large part of the
OpenWRT stack, such as their DHCP and RA clients and servers.  While it is
possible to run hnetd

This was the second most important reason for writing shncpd: to make an
implementation of Homenet that is easy to port to any Unix system.
I think I've been reasonably successful with that, but shncpd needs some
more work [1].

[1] https://www.irif.univ-paris-diderot.fr/~jch/software/homenet/shncpd.html
    has a list of known limitations.

> So I tried to spin hnetd up on a fedora vm, and found it fighting the
> distro set-up.

Even if you're just testing plain babeld, even without hnetd, you must
kill network manager.  If you don't, thinkgs may appear to work at first,
but NM will take revenge later.

-- Juliusz