Re: [homenet] Updates to Homenet Architecture Principles doc

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 12 June 2014 22:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [homenet] Updates to Homenet Architecture Principles doc
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On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:56 PM, Juliusz Chroboczek <jch@pps.univ-paris-diderot.fr> wrote:
> Hmm... I'm pretty certain that people will use degenerate mesh networks
> for transit once they realise it's a neat way to avoid laying wiring
> between your home and the shack at the back of the garden.  Not sure about
> LLNs, but I'd be nervous about including such language.

The point of excluding LLNs is that the text purports to cover routers in the home, and LLNs are routers in the home.   To force LLN routers to provide all the functionality that we are proposing homenet routers will provide would be overly burdensome.   So LLNs are customers of whatever connectivity the homenet routers provide, and are not themselves homenet routers.   Does that make sense?   Does the text need to be clarified?