Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) Research Group

Ethan Katz-Bassett <ethan.kb@usc.edu> Thu, 26 November 2015 22:18 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) Research Group
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Looks good. I like expliticly calling out the role as a "landing pad" for
academic work.
On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:00 PM Wassim Haddad <wassim.haddad@ericsson.com>;
wrote:

> +1
>
>
> Wassim H.
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Nov 26, 2015, at 04:44, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no>; wrote:
> >
> > +1
> >
> >
> >> On 26 Nov 2015, at 13:42, marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es>;
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Looks good to me
> >>
> >> I support the creation of this RG
> >>
> >> Thanks for doing this.
> >>
> >> Regards, marcelo
> >>
> >>> El 26/11/15 a las 12:35, Brian Trammell escribió:
> >>> Greetings, all,
> >>>
> >>> Following discussions at the HOPS proposed RG meetings in Prague and
> Yokohama, as well as at the RAIM workshop before Yokohama, we've revised
> the charter to reflect what we think the community wants out of such an RG.
> Note that given the slightly expanded scope of this charter, though, we've
> decided to rename the proposed RG to Measurement and Analysis for Protocols
> (MAP).
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Comments on the proposed charter below are welcome at hops@ietf.org:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) RG
> >>> ===============================================
> >>>
> >>> Our Internet has grown into something that differs from what was
> envisioned.
> >>> Its protocols sometimes operate in an environment other than than that
> for
> >>> which they were designed. For instance, some network elements treat
> some
> >>> protocols differently than others and those protocols themselves are
> sometimes
> >>> reused and abused in ways initially unforseen. The Measurement and
> Analysis
> >>> for Protocols (MAP) Research Group (RG) explores such phenomena by
> measurement
> >>> with the aim to inform protocol engineering and practice.
> >>>
> >>> Many protocol engineering efforts in a standards development context,
> as well
> >>> as best practices for the operation of IETF-defined protocols, can
> benefit
> >>> from insight provided by Internet measurements of various kinds.
> Likewise,
> >>> Internet measurement research efforts can stand to gain from contacts
> with the
> >>> IETF. The Measurement and Analysis for Protocol Engineering (MAP)
> Research
> >>> Group aims to provide a forum for interchange between these two
> communities,
> >>> supporting:
> >>>
> >>> - exchange of measurement-derived insight,
> >>> - discussion of techniques for measurement relevant for protocol
> engineering
> >>>  and network operations,
> >>> - collaborations to share data supporting these measurements, and
> >>> - a "landing pad" in general for the Internet measurement community to
> >>>  introduce its efforts to the IETF
> >>>
> >>> Measurements of any layer of the Internet protocol stack or aspect of
> Internet
> >>> operations are in-scope for the RG, provided they are relevant to
> protocol
> >>> engineering work within the IETF, or the operation of IETF protocols.
> >>>
> >>> Membership
> >>> ----------
> >>>
> >>> Membership in the MAP RG is open to all interested parties.
> >>>
> >>> Meetings
> >>> --------
> >>>
> >>> The MAP RG will meet one to three times per year, as deemed necessary
> by the
> >>> chairs and according to demand. At least one MAP RG meeting will be
> co-located
> >>> with an IETF meeting per year. Given the MAP RG's charter to bridge
> the gap
> >>> between Internet standards and measurement communities, the MAP RG may
> also
> >>> meet colocated with relevant academic conferences or network operator
> forums,
> >>> as appopriate.
> >>>
> >>> Meetings are by default open with open attendance and published
> proceedings,
> >>> with remote participation and recording as provided by the meeting
> venue,
> >>> according to the IRTF's IPR policy. This is always the case with at
> least one
> >>> MAP RG meeting co-located with an IETF meeting noted above. However,
> as deemed
> >>> necessary, the chairs may hold virtual or physical meetings with
> restricted
> >>> attendance to discuss observations which cannot be shared openly,
> provided
> >>> that some outcome of such a meeting may be openly shared with the
> community.
> >>>
> >>> Chairs
> >>> ------
> >>>
> >>> Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch>;
> >>> Dave Plonka <plonka@akamai.com>;
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Many thanks,
> >>>
> >>> Brian
> >>>
> >>>
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