Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) Research Group
Ethan Katz-Bassett <ethan.kb@usc.edu> Thu, 26 November 2015 22:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) Research Group
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Looks good. I like expliticly calling out the role as a "landing pad" for academic work. On Thu, Nov 26, 2015 at 1:00 PM Wassim Haddad <wassim.haddad@ericsson.com> wrote: > +1 > > > Wassim H. > > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 26, 2015, at 04:44, Michael Welzl <michawe@ifi.uio.no> wrote: > > > > +1 > > > > > >> On 26 Nov 2015, at 13:42, marcelo bagnulo braun <marcelo@it.uc3m.es> > wrote: > >> > >> Looks good to me > >> > >> I support the creation of this RG > >> > >> Thanks for doing this. > >> > >> Regards, marcelo > >> > >>> El 26/11/15 a las 12:35, Brian Trammell escribió: > >>> Greetings, all, > >>> > >>> Following discussions at the HOPS proposed RG meetings in Prague and > Yokohama, as well as at the RAIM workshop before Yokohama, we've revised > the charter to reflect what we think the community wants out of such an RG. > Note that given the slightly expanded scope of this charter, though, we've > decided to rename the proposed RG to Measurement and Analysis for Protocols > (MAP). > >>> > >>> > >>> Comments on the proposed charter below are welcome at hops@ietf.org: > >>> > >>> > >>> Measurement and Analysis for Protocols (MAP) RG > >>> =============================================== > >>> > >>> Our Internet has grown into something that differs from what was > envisioned. > >>> Its protocols sometimes operate in an environment other than than that > for > >>> which they were designed. For instance, some network elements treat > some > >>> protocols differently than others and those protocols themselves are > sometimes > >>> reused and abused in ways initially unforseen. The Measurement and > Analysis > >>> for Protocols (MAP) Research Group (RG) explores such phenomena by > measurement > >>> with the aim to inform protocol engineering and practice. > >>> > >>> Many protocol engineering efforts in a standards development context, > as well > >>> as best practices for the operation of IETF-defined protocols, can > benefit > >>> from insight provided by Internet measurements of various kinds. > Likewise, > >>> Internet measurement research efforts can stand to gain from contacts > with the > >>> IETF. The Measurement and Analysis for Protocol Engineering (MAP) > Research > >>> Group aims to provide a forum for interchange between these two > communities, > >>> supporting: > >>> > >>> - exchange of measurement-derived insight, > >>> - discussion of techniques for measurement relevant for protocol > engineering > >>> and network operations, > >>> - collaborations to share data supporting these measurements, and > >>> - a "landing pad" in general for the Internet measurement community to > >>> introduce its efforts to the IETF > >>> > >>> Measurements of any layer of the Internet protocol stack or aspect of > Internet > >>> operations are in-scope for the RG, provided they are relevant to > protocol > >>> engineering work within the IETF, or the operation of IETF protocols. > >>> > >>> Membership > >>> ---------- > >>> > >>> Membership in the MAP RG is open to all interested parties. > >>> > >>> Meetings > >>> -------- > >>> > >>> The MAP RG will meet one to three times per year, as deemed necessary > by the > >>> chairs and according to demand. At least one MAP RG meeting will be > co-located > >>> with an IETF meeting per year. Given the MAP RG's charter to bridge > the gap > >>> between Internet standards and measurement communities, the MAP RG may > also > >>> meet colocated with relevant academic conferences or network operator > forums, > >>> as appopriate. > >>> > >>> Meetings are by default open with open attendance and published > proceedings, > >>> with remote participation and recording as provided by the meeting > venue, > >>> according to the IRTF's IPR policy. This is always the case with at > least one > >>> MAP RG meeting co-located with an IETF meeting noted above. However, > as deemed > >>> necessary, the chairs may hold virtual or physical meetings with > restricted > >>> attendance to discuss observations which cannot be shared openly, > provided > >>> that some outcome of such a meeting may be openly shared with the > community. > >>> > >>> Chairs > >>> ------ > >>> > >>> Mirja Kühlewind <mirja.kuehlewind@tik.ee.ethz.ch> > >>> Dave Plonka <plonka@akamai.com> > >>> > >>> > >>> Many thanks, > >>> > >>> Brian > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> hops mailing list > >>> hops@ietf.org > >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hops > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> hops mailing list > >> hops@ietf.org > >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hops > > > > _______________________________________________ > > hops mailing list > > hops@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hops > _______________________________________________ > hops mailing list > hops@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/hops >
- [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and Analy… Brian Trammell
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… marcelo bagnulo braun
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Michael Welzl
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Wassim Haddad
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Ethan Katz-Bassett
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Joachim Fabini
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Aaron Falk
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… DIEGO LOPEZ GARCIA
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Dirk Kutscher
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Tim Wicinski
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Dave Plonka
- Re: [hops] Proposed Charter for Measurement and A… Brian Trammell