Re: [HR-rt] [hrpc] [regext] Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 05 October 2018 14:19 UTC

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Subject: Re: [HR-rt] [hrpc] [regext] Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode
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On 05.10.18 14:05, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> On 10/05/2018 01:55 PM, Eliot Lear wrote:
>> I take no position on the HR issues of this draft.  However:
>>
>>
>>> If there is only one instance in which this MAY be useful, perhaps there
>>> is no need for standardization of this extension?
>>>
>> Not the way we do business.  We ask this question on the front end of
>> the process, not the back end.  
> Where is this question baked in the process


As a matter of practice (e.g., running code), it is asked at the time of
working group adoption, and it *sh**ould* be a gating factor for
technical specifications.  That is- no working group is likely to adopt
work they think is not going to get implemented or deployed, as that is
a waste of the IETF's resources. And in general it comes along with
questions like, “Do people think this is a good idea?  Has anyone read
the draft?  Are people willing to review the work?  etc.”

> Please elaborate? The 'MAY' was brought up by Scott in his previous email.

He gave *an* example.  You implied then that it was the only use case. 
That's not reasonable.  And there's reason to assume that this is not
the case, (a) because of the above and (b)  because someone is being
paid to do work in this space in this direction, and that person works
at a domain registration company.

Eliot

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