Re: [HR-rt] [regext] Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode

"Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com> Fri, 05 October 2018 11:56 UTC

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From: "Hollenbeck, Scott" <shollenbeck@verisign.com>
To: "'Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de'" <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de>, "'lists@digitaldissidents.org'" <lists@digitaldissidents.org>, "Gould, James" <jgould@verisign.com>
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Thread-Topic: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-regext-verificationcode
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Klaus Malorny <Klaus.Malorny@knipp.de>
> Sent: Friday, October 05, 2018 3:39 AM
> To: Hollenbeck, Scott <shollenbeck@verisign.com>;
> 'lists@digitaldissidents.org' <lists@digitaldissidents.org>; Gould, James
> <jgould@verisign.com>
> Cc: 'hr-rt@irtf.org' <hr-rt@irtf.org>; 'hrpc@irtf.org' <hrpc@irtf.org>;
> 'regext@ietf.org' <regext@ietf.org>; 'gurshabad@cis-india.org'
> <gurshabad@cis-india.org>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Human Rights Review of draft-ietf-regext-
> verificationcode
>
> On 04.10.18 14:26, Hollenbeck, Scott wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: regext <regext-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Niels ten Oever
> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2018 9:42 AM
> >> To: Gould, James <jgould=40verisign.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
> >> Cc: hr-rt@irtf.org; hrpc@irtf.org; regext@ietf.org; gurshabad@cis-
> >> india.org
> >> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [regext] Human Rights Review of
> >> draft-ietf-regext- verificationcode
> >>
> >> Hi James,
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 03, 2018 at 01:14:10PM +0000, Gould, James wrote:
> >>> Thanks for the review, Gurshabad. I'll consider your feedback in the
> >> context of technical issues with the draft.  The registration of
> >> domain names in some jurisdictions may be subject to various
> >> requirements that involve verification by a party other than the
> registry.
> >>
> >> Could you please be so kind to link to some of these legal
> requirements?
> >
> > There are several examples of registry operators that require
> verification as part of their domain registration process. Here are a few
> ccTLD examples:
> >
> > https://www.denic.de/en/faqs/faqs-for-domain-applicants/#faq-19
> >
>
> Hi Scott,
>
> sorry to say that, but for DENIC, this is not correct. Of course, the
> registrar is obliged to provide a valid registrant address, but there is
> no mandatory, automated pre- nor post-validation of it in the DENIC
> registration process. Only in case of a complaint of a third party (for an
> obvious "Mickey Mouse" or incomplete address), DENIC requests the
> registrar to provide a correct address.
>
> The link you provided refers to the case that the domain is involved in a
> lawsuit. It is a requirement that has been changed in the context of the
> EU GDPR and has actually been relaxed compared to the previous
> requirements.

Thanks for the correction. The point I was trying to make is that there are multiple registry operators who require some form of verification and/or validation as part of their domain registration process.

Scott