[HR-rt] Fwd: [hrpc] [DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt (fwd)

Mallory Knodel <mallory@article19.org> Thu, 08 November 2018 03:57 UTC

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Subject: [HR-rt] Fwd: [hrpc] [DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt (fwd)
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Hi folks,

Anyone want to work with Paul and others to review this draft and offer
a draft text for a considerations section?

-Mallory

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] [DNSOP] Review of
draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt (fwd)
Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 00:10:58 -0500 (EST)
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
To: hrpc@irtf.org


[oops, CC:ed the wrong email address]

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Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2018 00:08:03
From: Paul Wouters <paul@nohats.ca>
Cc: dnsop <dnsop@ietf.org>, hrpc@ietf.org
To: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt

On Mon, 5 Nov 2018, Paul Vixie wrote:

>  Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-serve-stale-02.txt
>
>  because of deliberate reconfiguration or takedown, i'll hope that
>  serve-stale offers authority operators (both apex and parent) a signalling
>  pattern that says, "actually, i want this dead, NOW."

That sword cuts both ways. It would be useful to have a Human Rights
section in the document that discusses this issue.

Perhaps the HRPC WG can assist us here,

Paul

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