Re: [HT-rt] [EXTERNAL] Re: HR-RT Review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Mon, 23 April 2018 06:42 UTC

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Subject: Re: [HT-rt] [EXTERNAL] Re: HR-RT Review of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process
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Hi Glenn,

Just on no smoking...

</editor hat>

On 21.04.18 00:53, Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal) wrote:

> The policy part of it would be for the IESG to declare that IETF
> meetings are smoke free.
>

FWIW I believe the community can make this statement.

>   I'm not aware of this ever being explicitly stated, but the entire
> time since I've attended IETF meetings everyone has treated it as an
> unwritten policy.
>

Yup.

>    Yet, still it wouldn't hurt for outside of this document that being
> declared to preemptively deal with the situation if it were to arise. 
>

It seems to me we have the right vehicle in front of this for this
purpose.  As I wrote, it's running code.


> There may be regional rules that permit smoking in bars and casinos as
> distinguished from restaurants, we do not seem to have had problems
> locating venues that have smoking bans in place in restaurants and
> interior spaces such as corridors.
>

Yup.
>
>  
>
> If there is no issue from the IESG in requiring a Smoke Free meeting
> venue, then measurable criteria that we could have is perhaps the
> following text:
>
>  
>
>     The facility MUST prohibit smoking in meeting rooms, interior
> common spaces and corridors, indoor lobby bars which are open to
> common spaces and corridors, and indoor restaurants.  IETF primary and
> secondary hotels MUST have blocks of rooms designated as "Non Smoking"
> guest rooms.
>

I propose simply to include this text.

Eliot