Re: [hrpc] "Paul Vixie and Peter Lowe on Why DoH is Politically Motivated"

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 15 November 2021 12:53 UTC

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Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 04:53:08 -0800
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] "Paul Vixie and Peter Lowe on Why DoH is Politically Motivated"
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I don't think it's that useful to argue about the bigger picture, *but* I
also think that the attribution of this to DoH is rather misplaced. There
are a number of reasons--primarily technical--that Firefox at least elected
to use DoH, but we could have just as well used DoT and the situation would
be very much the same.

-Ekr


On Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 4:33 AM Bill Woodcock <woody@pch.net> wrote:

>
>
> > On Nov 15, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Stephane Bortzmeyer <bortzmeyer@nic.fr>
> wrote:
> >
> > It's funny (no, actually, it's sad) that some people, in 2021, still
> > use "political" as an insult and criticizes a protocol as being
> > "political" (specially in the fields of security and privacy where
> > things are even more political than the average network protocol).
>
> Well, I agree that the word “political” is not a useful one in this
> context.
>
> But in reading what they said, I don’t find much else to disagree with…
> DoH is a black mark on the reputation of the IETF, and its adoption as a
> standard was a sad day for privacy.
>
>                                 -Bill
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