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Re: [hrpc] Politics, representation, and the charter (was Re: HRPC recharter)

Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> Tue, 18 April 2023 15:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Politics, representation, and the charter (was Re: HRPC recharter)
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Hi Andrew,

On 18-04-2023 17:34, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> [ObDisclaimer]
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 05:10:56PM +0200, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> Dear Andrew,
>>
>> You argue that there (still) is a lack of understanding among governments about the work of the IETF, isn't that exactly illustrating why an RG charter change is needed?
>>
> 
> I don't see how that conclusion follows from the premise, but anyway I think your premise misdescribes what I am saying.  What I am saying is that the RG is _contributing_ to the confusion, and that it is almost guaranteed to do so because the distinction between the IETF and the IRTF is the sort of detail that even people deeply involved in IETF/IRTF processes do not always attend to.
> 

You describe what was described in the RG by the co-chair was a factually correct description of the current situation, but that due to the complexity of the situation it is complex to understand it correctly.

How can you then attribute the misunderstanding to the co-chair or the proposed charter change ?

Best,

Niels

> Best regards,
> 
> A
> 

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