Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-guidelines-02.txt

[Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]>]

oops, there was one very weird comment in there from me that I should
explain: "talks about "the internet" like "hip hop""

What I mean is that there is a line of critique from rapper Mos Def about
how people talk about the musical genre hip-hop... he says, "People talk
about hip-hop as if it's some giant sleeping in a mountain or something
that has human attributes and desires." In essence, we can
over-anthropomorphize certain things in our common language ("hip-hop is
dead" "information wants to be free") and that this is often a crutch we
use when we could be more precise about practical realities.

Anyway, I'd just suggest folks keep an eye out for things like this and
instead reword to make sure we recognize that humans do these things...
e.g., instead of "If the Internet wants to be a global network of
networks..." we can say "If internet engineers want the Internet to be a
global network of networks,"

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 3:45 AM Joseph Lorenzo Hall <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 3:00 AM Gurshabad Grover <gurshabad=
> [e-mail]> wrote:
>
>> On 11/03/19 5:16 PM, [e-mail] wrote:
>> >
>> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
>> directories.
>> > This draft is a work item of the Human Rights Protocol Considerations
>> RG of the IRTF.
>>
>> (Thanks to the chairs for scheduling time to discuss this draft at
>> IETF104.)
>>
>>
>>
> Not sure if this is the best thread for feedback on this document, but
> here is my most recent review:
>
>
>    - draft-irtf-hrpc-guidelines-02
>    -
>       - 3.2: "Currently three five methods"
>       - 3.2.2, could be clearer: "seeking to understand how it might
>       provide a different ordering of the network or society."
>       - 3.3.5, internet doesn't want anything: "If the Internet wants to
>       be a global network of networks, the protocols should work with languages
>       apart from English and character sets apart from Latin characters."
>       - 3.3.6, double reference: "[RFC4941] This is why Privacy
>       Extensions for Stateless Address Autoconfiguration in IPv6 have been
>       introduced. [RFC4941]"
>       - 3.3.6, I would reorder those questions
>       - 3.3.8, the example seems unfinished?
>       - 3.3.10, talks about "the internet" like "hip hop" (throughout the
>       document, but especially apparent here)
>       - 3.3.14, is this referring to encrypted intermediate storage? "or
>       the implementation uses an encrypted store"
>       - 3.3.15, how is the difference here between accuracy and
>       consistency being thought out? Does consistency have a temporal/stateful
>       aspect? "Does your protocol maintain, assure and/or verify the accuracy of
>       payload data? Does your protocol maintain and assure the consistency of
>       data?"
>       - 3.3.15, the MITM description should probably be improved and
>       bulleted? Should it hint at inactive MITM and should we call it something
>       other than "man"?
>       - 3.3.16, "man-in-the-middle-attacks" -> "man-in-the-middle
>       attacks"
>       - 3.3.16, "Bob can see the data did not come from Alice but from
>       Corinne." remove "but by Corinne" as that may not be true.
>       - 3.3.16, what about non-authenticity or knowing when to not ask
>       for evidence of authenticity? E.g., attestation of hardware security
>       devices like yubikeys may lock out people who use a different brand
>       (Vanguard or Fidelity does this now).
>       - 3.3.18, impacts bullet list broken
>       - 3.3.19, typo "Does you protocol"
>       - 5, looks like this should be a bullet list?
>
>
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