Re: [hrpc] Politics, representation, and the charter (was Re: HRPC recharter)

[Melinda Shore <[e-mail]>]

On 4/18/23 8:16 AM, Niels ten Oever wrote:
> Why could it not help elucidate the difference?

By not elucidating the difference?  That said, I'm not sure it
can for people outside the process, but I do think that it
could be a lot clearer with respect to limiting RG scope.

> I don't think this was never claimed by anyone in hrpc. Why could work 
> in hrpc not actively work to explain this difference and actually 
> address the misconception and help explain the work by the IRTF and IETF ?

I think there's tremendous value in research identifying and
explaining the nexus between internet protocol standards and human
rights, and developing an understanding of how IETF standards
might help or harm those rights.  That is not the same thing
as attempting to influence the development of specific documents
in specific IETF working groups, which is something that was
a problem early in the RG's existence and which is still not
fully understood (see the discussion in the "When are HRPCs
normative in an IETF protocol?" thread as a relatively recent
example, and the existence of a human rights review team as
an early example).

Melinda

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