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Re: [hrpc] Hippocratic License 3.0 - open source license

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Fri, 22 October 2021 15:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Hippocratic License 3.0 - open source license
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Hiya,

On 22/10/2021 13:46, Vittorio Bertola wrote:
> 
> 
>> Il 22/10/2021 00:40 Dietrich Ayala <autonome@gmail.com> ha
>> scritto:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not involved with this project, but thought it might be
>> relevant to this group.
>> 
>> HL 3.0 is an open source software license grounded in intl human
>> rights norms.
> 
> This is not an open source license. One of the key principles of open
> source is that you can use the software however you like, so any
> license that says "you cannot use this software for this specific
> purpose", or "you cannot use this software if you are part of this
> specific group of people", is not an open source license. People are
> free to write and use this kind of licenses if they want, but they
> should not call them open source.

There's also the question of efficacy. A well meaning license
condition on use of OCB mode ([1] I think reflects the latest
in a series of attempts at redoing that) was at least in part
responsible for no one being willing to adopt that for maybe
a decade or more. I believe it also resulted in a pile of
legal work for the inventor and for those who wanted to use
the mode over the years.

Encumbered crypto might be a bit of a special case though
for historic reasons. Or OTOH, it may well be that exactly
the same things would be seen with any encumbrance of this
nature.

Cheers,
S.

[1] https://www.cs.ucdavis.edu/~rogaway/ocb/license.htm

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