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Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-03.txt

Eliot Lear <lear@cisco.com> Fri, 12 July 2019 10:10 UTC

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Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2019 12:10:02 +0200
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To: Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net>
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-03.txt
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Hi Niels

> On 12 Jul 2019, at 11:26, Niels ten Oever <mail@nielstenoever.net> wrote:
> 
> Many people in the IETF are convinced that the meetings are not intended to bring in new people, this actually has become an official non-goal in the meeting venue selection process per draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process and draft-krishnan-ietf-meeting-policy. The current consensus seems to be that participating in the IETF is not dependent of physical participation, but can also be done through mailinglists and remote tools.

As the editor of draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process, I don’t think you should shy away in your research from challenging that where, in your view, the IETF may have erred.  Whatever consensus the IETF has can change based on well reasoned argument, and the IRTF is expected to provide that.  Maybe not immediately, and maybe not without other precipitating factors that either don’t exist today or are not yet readily apparent, but this is really the only way change happens.

Eliot

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